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8 hours ago, The Last Zica said:

I find that quite odd and different from my experience. I can't really see banning Vita in Ranked - in Normals, if there were bans, sure, because of double Vita Sheep, but in Ranked they can only have one in the first place, and one is little more than an annoyance IMO. Vonak and Tulam, of course, are pretty good bans, since even one can be a pretty big problem. But I'd definitely ban Sizuka, Vonak and/or Tulam over Vita in all formats, personally. And Bumaro... never... because he's just too easy to counterplay when you're already familiar with his weaknesses. Statesman I'm still forming an opinion on - I don't see him often, and the player behind him seems to make a big difference in his effectiveness.

ok i change my PoV: from now on, when im banner, be sure i wil ban 100% vonak. till they fix him.

 

fix: raise mana cost so he cannot hold left mouse button all game long. modify him so the skill overheat effect CANNOT stack on every skill regarless. 

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14 hours ago, MystX said:

Sorry man but i'm laughing at you so much , you're trying to explain me stupid basic things about the game , i prefer to stop you direct lol , i'm platinum doing only solo queue , i could be expert if most of my teams were better (i'm not arguing anything , i'm an average level player and don't consider myself an amazing player + ranks rarely means something , but i fully understand how the game is and how it should be).

 

 Now , to calm you direct LOL 95% of my guild is composed with expert players , who did well in the last tournament

 

So my points is don't try to teach me anything about what could/should i do or try against a Bumaro , or don't even teach me what should i do in pvp .

 

And yes as i say again my whole guild is composed of experts players  only who are without any doubt better than you and 100% of them agree that Bumaro is broken , and i know many good players who think the same .

 

Let's not start talking about the laughable Statesman that is overbroken , it's not the subject here .

 

So your wall of text is worthless , on top of that the HUGE majority of people in game and ALSO ON THIS TREAD agree that Bumaro is broken and that this char is a big problem . 

Nice try tho , you just never met players who are exclusively playing Bumaro and who are specialists to ruin pvp matches .

 

That's why you just have no idea what we're talking about here .

Shuk asked for an explanation of how to play cheese Bumaro so he can test it. Go tell him. If you can't, you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

 

The fact is you lose horribly and can't stop whining about a simple tactic that I and many others can deal with just fine. And you're not even close to a majority, much less a huge one. I'm far from the only one telling you to actually learn to play the game. All you do is whine and whine and ignore every hint at how you might actually improve your play style to be able to deal with a simple tactic.

 

You have zero credibility. L2P

 

I mean, seriously, in one point alone... if you cannot recall and deal with a Bumaro, you are not ready to play TR at anywhere close to a high level. What is your guild, anyways? Is it at least bigger than what I've built nearly solo? Why aren't they here backing you up, ideally with facts instead of just ignoring facts and continuously whining that you lack the basic map awareness to recall to base to deal with 1 guy? Heck, which region are you on? EU? Cuz I can't even find you on NA.

 

H I T - T H E - B - B U T T O N

 

And overbroken is not a word. At least not with the meaning you're going for.

11 hours ago, Shukran said:

ok i change my PoV: from now on, when im banner, be sure i wil ban 100% vonak. till they fix him.

 

fix: raise mana cost so he cannot hold left mouse button all game long. modify him so the skill overheat effect CANNOT stack on every skill regarless. 

You know that brief pause every once in a while when he overheats? NCSoft seems to be talking about removing that instead of nerfing him. Help me convince them removing overheat is NOT a good idea? Oh, and for those games where he doesn't get banned - remember, his biggest threat is the relative speed with which he can ninja Rozark. Keep an even closer eye on Roz than normal and you take away at least some of his edge.

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got a match against a semi-semi-semi-decent bumaro who was destrying MY T1 while i was farming minions. it was a normal game and we got 2 bumaros agaisnt.

 

i played jinsoyun, he ended 0/10 got 2 towers. we won.

 

it is scary tactic, because towers cannot be protected so much, it is true. but u leave team with 1 less farmer to achieve titans and defend objecticves. i think they could improve game by giving WARDS true sight . this way they cannot run away unpunished.

 

about vonak: we were 2 warders in that game i tilted about him. wards are not enough to cover objectives. i need to improve anyway

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Greetings,

 

Quick jump into this discussion to remind everybody to honor the Code of Conduct and refrain from getting personal. 

 

Thank you for a lot of great constructive feedback here. Keep it coming!

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just because a dev-mod bcame here

 

i found a guildmate using bumaro/lilu with that strategy. 

 

(we got 1 dc) i was forced to back often in base.

 

we lost to a titain incarnate with 1 tower at core while we were dominating the match.

 

i suggest few things to avoid this strat:

 

- towers gain tons of armor while there are no opponent minions around, like a buff and a debuff...u know right?

 

- wards see stealth.

 

- bumaro gain stealth only if he spend all cling time clinged (if it is already this way good)

 

- bumaro attacks cannot dot on towers just first hit.

 

at the end of the match he ended 0/6, got card "100% core damage" doing nothing more than pve-ing tower with his personal selfish goal.

 

actually, since u cannot see the second master choice, u cannot prepare for this strategy everytime and u should not base your master choice on opponent lame strategy.

 

if i ever meet some bumaro in ranked i think i just flip the table....

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And now we have people taking Nedien + Lilu , they fly trough the wall near t1 towers , and they got at t3 towers after 45 sec , great .

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Split pushing without being able to go straight to core tower is kinda manage-able even tho Bumaro's the only one whose insanely op when it comes to split pushing.

 

You shouldn't be able to go straight for the core tower, that's just stupid.

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6 minutes ago, MystX said:

And now we have people taking Nedien + Lilu , they fly trough the wall near t1 towers , and they got at t3 towers after 45 sec , great .

Please direct them to my opponents' teams. I would probably enjoy playing against that.

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